Why Downloads Don’t Tell the Whole Story
Everyone seems to have a podcast these days.
At least, that’s the popular joke.
But behind the microphones, editing software, guest scheduling, promotion, and countless hours of preparation lies a growing frustration shared by many creators: podcasting is often undervalued.
In a recent conversation on Monetize This, podcast advocate Rory Parquet challenged some of the industry’s most common assumptions about success, monetization, and what truly makes a podcast valuable.
His message was simple:
Podcasts matter far more than most people realize and downloads may be the least important metric of all.
The Hidden Problem in Podcasting
According to Rory, the biggest challenge facing podcasters isn’t technology, competition, or even audience growth.
It’s perception.
Many podcasters spend hours researching topics, preparing interviews, editing episodes, and promoting content. Yet they often encounter guests, businesses, and even industry insiders who treat podcasting as if it’s simply a hobby rather than a legitimate media platform.
As Rory explains, guests frequently expect professional exposure, expert positioning, and marketing benefits from appearing on a show but often struggle to see any value in the work performed by the host.
The result?
Many creators begin to undervalue themselves.
They assume that unless they have massive download numbers, sponsorship deals, or celebrity guests, their work somehow doesn’t count.
The Industry’s Obsession with Downloads
Ask almost any podcaster about their show, and the first question they hear is usually:
“How many downloads do you get?”
Downloads have become the universal scoreboard of podcasting.
But Rory argues that this obsession misses the point entirely.
He shared a story from his early podcasting days while building a men’s community around his show Power of Man.
One episode focused on bullying and generated more than 200 comments and conversations inside his community.
Yet the episode itself only recorded 24 downloads.
The lesson?
Many people were impacted by the message without ever pressing play.
Some saw social media posts.
Others joined conversations sparked by the topic.
Still others engaged with the community because the podcast existed.
The influence was real even if the download numbers didn’t reflect it.
A Different Way to Measure Success
Podcast success can look very different depending on your goals.
Consider these questions:
- Did someone take action because of your message?
- Did your episode start meaningful conversations?
- Did a listener gain a new perspective?
- Did a potential client discover your business?
- Did your content strengthen a community?
If the answer is yes, your podcast is creating value.
Downloads are simply one measurement not the entire story.
Why Most Podcasters Never Make Money
One statistic often repeated in podcasting circles is that over 90% of podcasts generate little or no revenue.
Rory believes part of the problem stems from the way creators are taught to think about monetization.
Many people enter podcasting expecting immediate income.
Unfortunately, podcasting rarely works that way.
Those who start a show solely to make money often become discouraged quickly when growth happens more slowly than expected.
Instead, Rory suggests that successful podcasters begin with a mission:
- Sharing a message
- Helping others
- Building a community
- Serving a specific audience
Ironically, focusing on impact first often creates the strongest foundation for future revenue.
Monetization Isn’t Always About Cash
One of the most interesting insights from the conversation was Rory’s broader definition of monetization.
Many creators think monetization only means sponsorships or advertising.
But value can come in many forms:
- Business referrals
- New clients
- Strategic partnerships
- Product sales
- Service exchanges
- Speaking opportunities
- Increased visibility
He even shared an example of a podcaster who receives free haircuts in exchange for promoting a local barbershop.
It may sound simple, but it demonstrates an important principle:
Value exchanged is still monetization.
Not every benefit arrives as a direct deposit.
The Biggest Myth in Podcasting
When asked about the worst advice he hears at podcast conferences, Rory didn’t hesitate.
The myth?
“You need expensive equipment to succeed.”
Many aspiring podcasters spend months researching microphones, cameras, lighting, software, and studio setups.
Meanwhile, they never publish a single episode.
The reality is that listeners care far more about the value of the content than the cost of the equipment.
A meaningful conversation recorded on a smartphone will often outperform a perfectly produced episode with nothing worthwhile to say.
Technology matters.
But message matters more.
The Gold Rush Problem
Perhaps the most memorable moment of the interview came when host David Beckemeyer compared the podcasting industry to the California Gold Rush.
During the gold rush, many prospectors struggled.
The people who consistently made money were often the ones selling picks, axes, and shovels.
Podcasting can feel similar.
Many creators spend money on:
- Courses
- Equipment
- Software
- Conferences
- Memberships
- Growth programs
Meanwhile, relatively few creators earn meaningful revenue from their shows.
Rory believes this imbalance has contributed to podcasters feeling overlooked and undervalued.
Whether you agree with his perspective or not, his comments raise an important question:
Who benefits most from the podcasting ecosystem today the creators or the companies serving them?
Why Podcasting Still Matters
Despite the challenges, Rory remains optimistic.
He believes podcasting remains one of the most powerful platforms available for building relationships, sharing expertise, and creating meaningful impact.
The problem isn’t podcasting itself.
The problem is how success is being defined.
If success is measured only by downloads, rankings, sponsorships, and revenue, many creators will feel like failures.
But if success includes influence, community, relationships, and service, the picture changes dramatically.
Final Thoughts
Podcasting is a unique medium.
It allows ordinary people to reach audiences around the world, share experiences, teach valuable lessons, and build communities around ideas that matter.
The next time someone asks how many downloads your podcast receives, consider a different question:
Whose life did your message impact?
Because in the end, that may be the metric that matters most.
Sincerely,
Christopher Sciullo
info@mypodcastplatform.com
MyPodcastPlatform.com
